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Why I’m uninstalling Windows 8

Windows 8: torture incarnate.

As a cruel trick on myself, about a month ago I installed Windows 8 on my main PC to see what it was like.

The answer is: abysmal.

I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say that Windows 8 is the worst computing experience I’ve ever had. As a desktop operating system, it’s annoying, frustrating, irritating, and baffling to use. I’ve tried on many occasions to explain exactly why it’s so awful to use day-to-day, and most of the time, smoke starts pouring out of my ears. I thought it would be better to get down exactly what the issues are and why you should avoid it.

What it comes down to is this: Windows 8 is a tax on your brain. That dealing with it, day in, day out adds to your world being slightly worse in a dozen different but slightly irritating ways.

This isn’t an exhaustive list, but it is an exhausting list of reasons why I’ll never touch Windows 8 again. I'm not alone: game developers worldwide have declared Windows 8 a catastrophe.  

Windows 8 is really meant for tablets

Windows 8 brings a new kind of computing design to the desktop. Once called Metro (until Microsoft realised that Metro is also the name of a German supermarket), it’s a design motif that’s meant to be appropriate across tablets, mobile phones, the desktop, and eventually, televisions. To be fair to Microsoft, Metro is a decent way of poking at your computer with a finger. But when you have the flexibility and precision of a mouse, it makes no sense. In Metro Most of your screen is taken up with white space. Text is bigger, the buttons are bigger, the borders are bigger. There’s less information, more wastage. It’s a complete mess.

The treatment of the desktop as an app is an out and out disaster

The Metro interface is Windows 8. The desktop that you’re used to is also there, but it’s built as a separate app. Think of it this way: Metro is the shell. The desktop is an app within that shell. If you want to start Steam, you’ll want to launch the Desktop app, and then launch Steam.

This is insanity. This is Windows 8.

Window management is a pain in the arse

Metro apps don’t have any window controls. If you want to swap between apps, you have to make a convoluted mouse gesture - move the mouse to the top left of the screen, and then down to select the window. You can’t minimise the app, and there’s no on-screen preview of what’s running to help you quickly switch between programs.

You can pick up windows and shunt them, say, to a second screen, which initially feels relatively useful. But I’ve discovered more than anything that you spend more time fiddling with their arrangement than actually doing anything useful with them.

Switching between Metro apps is a complete farce

I can’t get over how Microsoft have managed to break one of the basic functions of a GUI - swapping between running programs. Metro programs have no window controls and take up the entire screen. Therefore, there’s no easy way to switch between them using on-screen controls. You have to engage in unfamiliar mouse movements to swap between them.

Core apps that offer basic OS functionality are Metro only. And they’re awful

There are certain things that you do with your PC every day that should form the basis of the operating system. Email. Instant Message. Calendars. Media Playing. All of these functions in Windows 8 are carried out through Metro apps, and they are universally awful. There are no desktop apps included that do a similar job.

The email app is awful

The email app is horrendous. It is the worst email client I have ever used. It’s a full-screen Metro abomination that hides or is missing basic and vital functionality (search, column sorting, filtering). It’s full-screen, but only shows a small sample of your messages - so the screen real-estate is massively wasted. If you have multiple email accounts, there’s no combined inbox view. It’s slow to check and sync your email - unless you force a manual refresh. And the first time you use it, you will struggle to find the ‘send email’ button. Pro-tip - it’s the (+) in the top right.

The messages app is bafflingly terrible

The instant message app is near unusable for day-to-day work or play. It’s a full-screen Metro app, so it takes up all your screen when all it needs to do is appear in a small box. There’s no combined contact view - if you want to start messaging people, have to enter a separate app (the people app), and select message from within that. It currently only supports MSN and Facebook messages - so you’ll still have to run a Google Chat or IRC client separately. But because it tries to combine message accounts, you’ll often discover that friends will receive messages over different accounts, at the same time. I’ve had situations where my friend is receiving the same message on Facebook and MSN at the very same time. Other times, the app has refused to let me even enter a message into the box. It’s so utterly and intensely ludicrous I hate it’s very guts.

The Calendar is unworkable

I’ve given up entirely on the calendar, because it’s terrible. Changing to a week or day view requires a right click to make the control interface appear. I can’t work out how to edit an appointment, nor can I work out how to delete an appointment. There’s no way to show events from just one calendar. I think it may well be easier to alter my own birthday than to edit when it’s currently set for in the Windows 8 calendar. I really want to be making this up.

The video and music players are abysmal

The default Windows media player is a full-screen Metro abomination. It’s slow, and the interface is clunky, and you’ll struggle to find and play the files you want. Worse, though, is that it struggles with complicated storage options. All of my music and video is stored on a Network Attached Storage device - but the Windows Video and Music players can’t seem to index those files. If I want to play something, you have to work through the folder structure using Metro’s awful internal file browser.

Internet Explorer just needs to stop

There are two versions of Internet Explorer, both bad. The first is the Metro browser, and it’s essentially unusable on a desktop which hides basic controls light refresh, the browser bar, the back button and everything else you use on a day-to-day basis behind a right click. The Metro browser is the default - so any Twitter links you click until you can turn it off, will be opened in the Metro browser.

The Desktop app version of IE isn’t necessarily terrible - it just occasionally takes over your default browser when you’re not looking. Despite me regularly returning the default browser to Chrome, IE still decides it wants to be the default option for opening links sent by IM, and the option to change it is greyed out.

It seems have inspired other developers to lose their mind

Google Chrome has now silently updated to integrate better with Windows 8. Now, when it’s started from the Start Menu, it opens up an entire full-screen window, and it can only be displayed in that full-screen window. The only route to prevent that happening is to install a shortcut to the app on your taskbar. When it’s started from the taskbar, it behaves as you’d expect.

Desktop windows have got more complicated and less useful

The ribbon from Microsoft’s office products is now integrated into the Windows interface. For instance, in the file manager, rather than the ‘view’ menu being neatly arranged into vertical options, if you click view on a window it displays a ribbon of all the options in the view menu with randomly placed icons next to each-other.

The Charms bar is bafflingly unusable

The charms bar appears when you hover your mouse in the top right or bottom right corner of your screen. It's meant to help you with basic but universal tasks. Like search, or sharing. But the search function rarely finds what you want - it will only search within Metro apps, and you have to specify the app you want to search in separately. The share button only works in Metro apps, as well - you can’t share from within any desktop apps. So it's entirely pointless. 

There are random and delightful bugs and compatibility issues

Yes, there are bugs in Windows 8. And yes, they’ll probably be ironed out as development continues. But some of the bugs I’ve encountered as so weird as to suggest my entire PC has been traumatised. In order: Star Wars: The Old Republic now simply refuses to update. I can’t play full-screen video on a second monitor in Chrome. There are no drivers available for the bluetooth chipset on my motherboard. Unity games, like the brilliant Brickforce, don’t work. It goes on, and on, and on.

If you’re using Metro apps, there is no clock

FFS.

It’s harder than ever to turn the sodding thing off

It took me nearly half an hour to work out how to turn off my PC. So: here’s exactly how you do it: You move your mouse to the bottom right or top right of your screen. You then click on options. You then click on power, and then finally, you click on the Shutdown option.

Windows 8 comes out in just under two months - it’ll be available from October 16th. You should not buy it.

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Horibble horrible horrible, worst OS in history. Was at a friends place helping her set up her internet (she got a new laptop with win8) and it was the most confusing thing i've ever done, windows 8 completely blows. Win7 ultimate was and still is great, sticking with that till windows wakes up to itself.

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i find it ok on laptops because you can use two fingers to swipe on the start screen, but although saying that if you have a desktop pc with the new update you can bypass the start screen.

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Win8 is fine and OK while it's working smoothly,

but if anything ever goes wrong, you are FUCKED.

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BigJames's picture
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Alternative: OSX mavericks or linux ubuntu (though i prefer mint).

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It's bizarre. You'd think they want to hold onto the business desktop PC market at least.

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I just hope Microsoft realise their mistake and roll it back for Windows 9. They won't of course, this is designed for tablets and tablets are the future (apparently) but a man can dream.

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I wouldn't mind Microsoft utterly fucking it up if it meant that there was room in the market for new operating systems to develop.

Innovation banzai.

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I'm living in hope that current Windows 7 users will be supported for a reasonable amount of time beyond the release of Win8. I tried the release candidate of Win8 on my laptop, but it only lasted a couple of days. I found it frustrating and frankly unfathomable.

I'll point out this is not in a "Well this is how I've always done it...." way - I'm comfortable using various GUIs and command line interfaces, but the implementation of Metro in Win8 for desktop and laptop computers makes no sense and felt clunky. I like Metro for phones, and I like the idea of unifying the system across the device ecosystem, but unifying the GUI is a step too far.

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@nikana - I've been using various release candidates on my media centre PC for months. I've given it a fair chance. It just doesn't feel right for a desktop OS. I just can't bring myself to like the Metro start screen no matter how much I use it, the things just absurd. Maybe they'll improve it for the full release, I doubt it.

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@nikana

I've been using Windows 8 since the public builds became available and I can testify that there isn't one single wrong thing in the article.

Such a weird dismissal of a serious problem. "You're not using it right" or "You don't know how to use it" isn't an argument when it comes to an OS. There shouldn't be -any- scope for people "not using it right" or not knowing how to use it. It's a fundamental part of what connects people to their computer and ENABLES them to do stuff.

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I have used Windows XP since 2001, I have upgraded my computer so that it runs games Like Team Fortress 2 fine, and I will never move on, but Microsoft are basically forcing me to, dropping compatibility for it. For god's sake, XP was your most stable build. I have a Nokia 3310 and have no interest in mobile computing, so it is pointless. I don't respect you any more Microsoft, and if you force me off XP, I shall move to Ubuntu.

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The unity games comment is not true. I am developing a unity game on windows 8 and it runs perfectly. Unity games did not run in the Release Preview but they do run in the RTM build that you can get off of Microsoft's website.

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peope argueing over this some people saying its good and we are not learning it, i've been trying to use this for days as i need a laptop for college.

hate the new layout of everything and some people saying this is easier when i can't see my nice bar at the bottom showing me everything thats open and allowing me to switch to anyhing with 1 click or hover over it to open up loads of small screens so i can find the correct one.

i miss my start where it used to be a small section of the screen where it took less that 2 seconds to get what i wanted  including shutdown my computer, plus when i open it up for say im following some instructions on the internet i don't want to have to write down seems start seems to take over the whole screen.

also i have aload of useless junk apps which i will never use which i assume you cant get rid of, if you can thats great but idk yet but there all in my way so im scolling around the screen looking for the right place because i know theres not enough key combinations for every app to jump to it.

desktop was easier eveything on 1 screen and a start bar not withing a few diffent pages of apps and media and crap im never going to use, all i want is a computer which allows me to use the internet firefox not IE or metro and easy access to my documents( plzz say theres some sort of key combination or a easy way to get to it all it takes on mycomputer is  start- documents and im there takes me 1 second not even that.

windows 8 its not hard to use but it makes me die inside everytime i try to do somthing which i could do on windows 7 but can't do on 8.

 

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OK from a HP/Microsoft windows 8 customers point of view:

1. Microsoft Products will never match Apple for business/creativity.

2. Apple Products will never match Microsoft products for entertainment / leisure applications / games. The only OTHER difference between 1 and 2 is the price. Apple will ALWAYS be more expensive.

3. I purchased a brand spanking new Windows 8 (just upgraded effortlessly to windows 8.1 FREE via the official Microsoft website) machine on boxing day with 6GB RAM quad core CPU running at 3.5 GHz with RADEON HD 8000+ (dual graphics) series for £420 (INCLUDING McAfee LiveSafe (as a seperate) worth £79.99) AND 500 GB cloud storage also included from PC World (no monitor included) I have had a few teething problems (as I have had with ALL new computers / operating systems) and about half an hour to get used to the way the user interface (UI) operates, In all other ways I'm a happy customer.

4. People don't like change and that is understandable however technology these days is ever improving at a astronomical rate and people who STILL use windows XP or vista are, as far as I'm concerned, living in the dark ages. To expand... if you *cough* want security DONT buy Norton instead get McAfee live safe (protects ALL your devices with the latest past and present security) OR AVG 2014. They are expensive It's true (and there's a good reason for that) but as a windows user since the early 90's doing all kinds of things I can safely say AVG and McAfee have never put a foot wrong in RECENT times.

5. Windows 8 does all the things (including the start button + Accessories when you know how (6. below)) the previous recent versions of windows did and it does them with the user in mind, sure it might take 1 or 2 more clicks to get the menu or the folder in windows 8/8.1 or the app that you wanted but in my honest opinion (imho) that's nothing. It STILL comes in 32 and 64 bit flavors AND 2014 will see the introduction of many new windows 8 compatible applications / software's / utilities / games. It may have been built with smartphones and tablets in mind but that's NOT to say that that's all it caters for, it gives the overall windows experience that was delivered in windows vista and in windows 7 in a slightly different style but still perfectly useable once you have all the appropriate settings in the settings --> change PC settings (right at the bottom of the sidebar) setup the way you want them.

6. To get the start menu back in windows 8:

- First move the mouse pointer to the top right of the screen and click 'settings' at the bottom of the sidebar, then click 'control panel'

- Choose appearance and personalisation then where it says 'folder options' click show hidden folders next check the box next to 'show hidden

files, folders and drives' click apply then click OK. Now your hidden folders that windows applications/software uses will be shown. *NOTE* You

can switch it back off after the same way as you switched it on, just un-check the check box click apply then click OK.

- Right-click the toolbar at the bottom of the desktop (where the quick launch items go) and select (don't click) 'new toolbars --> new toolbar' then click. Next open My Computer or whatever you called your computer if you're using Win 8.1 and double click the hard disk/partition that windows is installed on (normally c:\)

- Double click program data then double click Microsoft then double click the "windows" folder next SELECT (single click) the "Start Menu" folder and then at the bottom right of the window click select folder, TADA! you now have the start menu in windows 8/8.1 in the form of two arrows next to the text 'Start Menu' that look like this >>

7. Windows 8 may not be default configured properly for laptops/tablets but that can be easily fixed (Google is your friend --> "windows 8 power management" + "windows 8 metered internet")

8. Windows 8 operates much the same way as 7 and vista only one must get used to the User Interface (UI) and add the start menu as explained above and also get used to switching between desktop and the main panel / control panel / change PC settings interface. The clock/calender is the same as it was in vista and 7, the quick launch bar is still there, all the basic windows accessories are there (once you have added the start menu) (calculator, notepad, word-pad, even windows media player falls into accessories this time around!)

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You must be kidding right? How on earth is it "intuitive" to have to configure your new laptop / desktop to be a desktop / laptop? Why don't MS configure the o/s for different machines? This is like Apple providing iOS for the desktop then leaving it to users to configure it to be used as a desktop. One o/s for every device does not work, a phone is different to a computer desktop or laptop, we don't use them the same way or for the same things in the most part, so why make the o/s the same for every device? It makes no sense.

Here's a great example. My elderly mother in law wanted to try a mac a few years back, my wife and I helped her choose one, then set up her email etc, after weeks of using it, she hadn't asked a single question or got stuck on anything. When she decided to do genealogy she needed a copy of windows to run the program (couldn't be bothered with an emulator) so we installed Windows 8 for her, she then had nothing but problems, couldn't find anything, didn't know how to do anything and got lost from one app to another. This lady had been using windows for at least 10 years prior to this, so it was nothing to do with a lack of windows skills, she was a proficient user, but not when it came to win 8.

All one has to do is do a search for windows 8 problems and you'll come up with dozens of pages, complaint after complaint about how difficult it is to use. Wake up this is a good review and doesn't hide any of the problems, perhaps you are a windows boy who can't stand to see his favorite o/s pulled apart and seen for what it is, a load of rubbish. Perhaps on a windows tablet it works fine and makes sense, but for the desktop it makes no sense and is completely unintuitive. When you say "that can be easily fixed" when talking about getting the start menu back, what you describe is not easy at all there are about 20 steps to go through, what I'm saying is why doesn't MS do that for the user, or the OEM do it? Not leave it to people and expect them to search the net to make their computer work how it should out of the box. It's a joke and MS have suffered in sales, as they should. Why not support the one group of users who have stayed faithful to the company? I think that MS have rested on their laurels and think that their monopoly will continue for ever, not in my household or business. I've been using mac's at home and work for a decade now and have had hardly any issues and the ones I have had relate to MS Exchange server doing stupid things with attachments. That's it a company with dozens of computers all running mac osx and no issues, even with users who have never used a mac before. Had I chosen windows pc's for our work computers I'd never have any time to get any work done I'd be constantly chasing up problems with them. Yes Macs are expensive, because they use the best hardware, I've had apple laptops last me more than 8 years and still be running fine, while some people I know in the same industry have had to upgrade their pc laptops 5 times during the same period. So don't tell me macs are more expensive, because over the long term they are in fact a LOT cheaper. Oh and OSX is now free and comes with a lot of useful software, which is also free with a new machine. Thanks MS, thanks for nothing.

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This is Tim Edwards second article slating Windows 8. If its you're opinion that Win8 is terrible thats fine but you seem to have an agenda.You may not believe this but there are ppl out there who respect the views published on this site and they will see your article and be put off EVER trying or even giving Win8 a fair shake. I've read both articles you have wrote on this site about Win8 and found them the most biased things I've ever seen on a PC review site. Where is your journalistic impartial professionalism? Its all just "I hate this!" "I dont like this because its different!" and the saddest comment of the lot "you have to make a convoluted mouse gesture" when talking about switching apps. That comment right there should have shown whoever your editor is that you shouldn't be publishing an article on win8 AT ALL! in fact if you find moving a mouse to the left of your screen "convoluted" you should maybe seek work in an other industry because obviously basic PC skills are beyond you. Change is always hard for ppl, but to call Win8 "baffling to use" is again another incredible comment from a man earning a living using a computer. I have used Win8 now for a few weeks and if anything MS dumbed it down making it EASIER to use, again HOW IS IT BAFFLING? I totally agree with nikana's comments this is a terrible article filled with biased uninformed information.

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I will buy it. No pirated version either. Really pay, buy and install Windows 8.

Reason is I tried an early beta version and it was so fast and light compared to my Windows 7 OS I was blown away. As for the rest, everything will be changed, tweak and adjusted to provide the experience I want. Don't really care about GUI or basic programs since I use custom ones anyway. As long as the system is light on resources, stable and fast "under the hood" it's good enough for me to use. So to conclude I'm looking forward to challenge myself customizing and tweaking this new OS.

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I also second what the author wrote. I wouldn't recommend it to 99% people out there who are currently comfortable with Win XP/Win 7, Putting tablet OS together on top of desktop OS is a terrible idea. Yes, it 'might' be the future, but do not forget that OS is only 1 part of the whole computing experience, there are hardware, people, skills, etc. to be considered. A OS that needs a 'high curve of learning' as opposed to 'simple but work perfectly' will not appeal to me.

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To my mind, Win 95 was the last usable version. Those which followed offered more inconveniences, complications and options which were never needed in the first place. True, being able to use much greater amounts of RAM, for things like complicated image-editing where the file sizes become huge due to having to store in the background, whatever image-editing you have carried out so you can undo work, is extremely useful, but surely, that shouldn't be that complicated to implement, and the functionality doesn't need to be changed as well. My advice to Microsoft would be (but they won't take any notice of what I say!) as follows:

a] Look at the what Adobe has been doing with plug-ins ... design a basic bullet-proof engine, and then allow people to 'plug-in' whatever features they want. I don't need 12 different ways of doing exactly the same thing,

b] If you have to employ 'geeks', for their first 5 years of employment, get them to tracking down all the faults in Win 95, and correcting all the programming faults in it.

c] Initiate the following mantra 'Keep it simple and basic'

d] In your eventual new version, ensure it ALL works so that when it's shipped, those who buy it are no longer your unpaid bug-finders.

e] make this o/s so that future o/s's and the apps are backwardly compatible with it.

If you are incapable of doing the above, just quit making software!

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Actually, He Was Being Nice. Let Me Put It Another Way. Windows 8 Sucks. Get Ubuntu & Stick With Windows 7 For Gaming. Then, Wait Until They Iron Out The Bugs or Windows 9. Remember, Every Other OS Sucks From Microsoft. Always Has. Always Will. Peace.......

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Did people miss the rant tag? Guess so. Nitpick the stuff he says but ignore the fact he knows he's ranting. Stars for all.

If you need to learn how to use an OS, the OS is bad. Intuitive means zero effort. I really think this is a horrible turn in OS development. There are better ways than Windows 7 and OSX to make an intuitive GUI, and this is in the wrong direction.

Tell an end user to hack their Registry. Go on. I'm sure they know how to.

I have no plans to get windows 8 because my desktop is not a tablet. God forbid anyone rants about stuff on the internet because no one ever does that. Or take opinions as fact. Nope, everyone is right when the author is wrong. Missed the whole point of the post. This is an earth shattering shift and Microsoft is ramming their horrid UI into a desktop OS when it has no business being there. Having a desktop is not making me want a tablet PC, and the UI formerly known as Metro would make me even less enthusiastic about tablet computing.

Microsoft is delusional, misguided, and forever alone. It is the crazy ex that does anything to get you back and then destroys your soul.

Go on defending a horrid OS, I bet you all defended Vista as well. Go on telling us how we're dumb for not getting Metro. I know you're really scared to face the truth; this is the worst OS yet and may make Linux attractive. Go on, admit it to yourself, you're fearful.

Someone said that a person without PC problems is simply not using it. Perhaps his hardware is incompatible with the OS? Never a consideration, only that he's dumb. Well, have fun in Windows 8. We'll be cozy in 7 watching you all curse Microsoft. Welcome to the future, indeed.

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@nikana No, everything in this article is true. I have tried windows 8 and it is dreadful. Absolutely dreadful.

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@nikana No, everything in this article is true. I have tried windows 8 and it is dreadful. Absolutely dreadful.

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All this happening just as the Mac is getting perfect. Buy Apple Stock sell MSFT, and buy yourself a MacbookAir

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I have been using Windows 8 on a laptop for a few weeks and to be honest it is *&£%!

Yes i understand Windows 8 is for tablets but for laptops and PC's no freaking way. Half the time i have been switching between Metro and Desktop. Metro IE10 is shocking for example Metro IE10 does not support Silverlight plug in but Silverlight is supported in Desktop IE10 and in general IE does not even support Transistions and Animation from CSS3 or WebGL where Chrome does.

Plus i have also found that sometimes when you want to watch a video that uses a flash player in Metro IE10 it will ask to upgrade flash yet you can watch the same video in Desktop IE10. Or if your listening to an internet radio station in Metro IE10 as soon as you switch to another application your radio station is muted. But low and behold Desktop IE10 can run in the background while you work. I really don't see the need to have two IE browsers when one does it all. But i will stick with Chrome for reliability and kept up to date with latest web development or Safari for a change of UI scenery.

I know that there will be some fixes to come before launch but in general the whole thing is a mess. The Mail app does not updated itself consistently even when when i have looked at new mail on another device. The People app is slow to update with new information from multiple sources, its so slow the wildlife would over take it.

The News app rarely updates itself from day to day. The Sports app has sod all content. And the Windows Store, if that is anything like the Windows Phone Marketplace...Microsoft are going to need help on a biblical scale to get on par with Apple's App Store and the Android Marketplace.

I have been a Windows user for years but this time they have taken the biscuit and i will be purchasing a Mac in the near future and running Windows 7 on a virtual machine.

Because at the end of the day Microsoft are trying to copy Apple's eco-system with Windows 8 where you can use apps, games and all the other media junk that gets uploaded to the respective store to work on all kinds of respective hardware platforms that run Windows 8 OS.

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Yes I wish Apple would release OSX for the desktop they would wipe the floor with windows, until that day ill continue with windows 7 and hackintosh.

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@McG46

Yes, because INVISIBLE CORNER MENU is so much less baffling than CLEARLY LABELLED OPTION.

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I installed Win8 and hated it. I'm now saving to buy a Mac.

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The item is right , I think microsoft wants to be apple but hasnt nearly the knaus of apple , its a jumble of engineers and coca cola style management who have been told they are the best but havnt had to prove it , your gonna self destruct microsoft . you are security obsessed , dont keep asking me if I want to do things that i,ve already keyed in ,

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From my vast years of working in IT any OS platform has to be user friendly and efficient, over complicated system immediately alienate users especially those who are too stupid to switch one on, I haven’t had the opportunity to run it yet but after reading the review I won’t be rushing to try it out, the best user friendly OS ever was and still is XP basic as it maybe.

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A great article - the best I've seen on Windows 8.

Some of those criticising it here are apparently not old enough to remember the days before tablet computers - or are nostalgic for the days of keyboard shortcuts, which for most of us became irrelevant when the mouse was invented.

Those who want an OS suitable for professional use (as opposed to infantile toys) don't want to pretend that their computer is really an ipad, and adapt accordingly. It is infinitely quicker to have the desktop layout of Windows 7 and to navigate it with the mouse. A desktop which shows the clock without having to hunt for it.

Windows 8 is a misconceived exercise which tries and fails to embrace a range of computing devices, from mobile phones to desktop PCs. It would be better not to have tried. But even now it is not too late for Microsoft to fix it, by giving users a straight option, so that when it boots up we can have the familiar interface on our desktop PCs without having to play silly games in order to use the computer.

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Sheesh, and I thought Vista was an unmitigated disaster. I tried Windows 8. Arrrggghhhh. No it isn't a case of not knowing how to use it. It's a case of it being too convoluted to use. After Vista I never went to Windows 7. I wasn't about to waste any more money. I'm back on XP. That was originally a pain in the neck with it's constant need for patches and updates which really should have been sorted out before its release. Nowadays it works just fine. Personally I don't care if Micros**t doesn't support it in future. ( Insert "hi" or "of" depending how you feel about the company). With a good AV and FW it is safe enough. Most of all it does what I want when I want it to, without causing a load of aggravation.

The thing which really rattles my cage is Micros**t charging us £250 for something they charge $250 for in the USA. Hasn't Bill Gates been told that $1 is not worth £1?

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To: Everyone in this comment thread & Microsoft:

I does not matter that technology advances, to render your product unusable to customers that have been using Windows since 95 is like Ford, GM, Toyota, etc coming out with cars that you have to relearn to drive because technology advances. To not include an OBVIOUS way to allow established users to bridge between the years of experience they have on windows and the completely new and non-intuitive UI is unthinkable. Additionally, the upgrade (automatic) from 8.0 to 8.1 sequestered my desktop files into an unspecified folder, WTF?!?!? It has changed password requirements, etc. I have been a PC user since the 80s, if there were an alternative, I would take it today.

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The above report is a mirror image of my experience with the Beta version of W8, many months ago. I tried. I really tried, but it is appalling. Its brain damage.

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Bring back the instruction manual and make things simpler.

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" I think it would be wise to give Microsoft a little more credit. They're not a fly by night upstart just getting into the game. Do you think all their smart designers suddenly quit and were replaced by idiots?"

Only one word:

VISTA.

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ts like the automobile industry redesigned the car so that you steer with your foot pedals, indicate with the steering wheel and use the gearstick to adjust the seat. MADNESS !!!

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LOL! This article is such bullshit and is filled with so many lies. The author doesn't even know how to use the damn OS. Let me obliterate some of this idiot's arguments.

"If you want to start Steam, you’ll want to launch the Desktop app, and then launch Steam."

Bullshit!! You can start Steam from a tile, without even going into the desktop.

"If you want to swap between apps, you have to make a convoluted mouse gesture - move the mouse to the top left of the screen, and then down to select the window."

Try Alt-tab dumba$$.

"It’s harder than ever to turn the sodding thing off"

You're kidding right.

Keep trying. Articles like this make me laugh.

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As distinct from the hand pedals, Shaun? :)

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I believe you ! Ever since spending an hour trying to do a search with the radically redesigned Vista search console, I realized these companies do not give a hoot about user interface. How can it take a guy who was programming in machine code at 14, and can program in dozens of languages, this long ? Clearly, intuitive is not in MS's vocabulary. It seems MS's intelligence is in inverse proportion to their wisdom. True, we was connectivity, latest protocols, multi-watnots. But; we also want intuitive, easy-to-operate, configurable, dynamism and flow. Everything you described sounds like a late-nineties mobile OS. Coincidence ?

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I shall, however; retain Windows 8. As a "toy." I normally run about 8 or so machines, one for media, one for the net, one for art, etc. And; No. 8 machine will be my Windows 8 toy machine (something for people to "play" on when they're bored, and need a reminder to appreciated things that work properly, and the simple things in life, like Windows XP for example...

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Thanks, wont touch it with a bargepole. XP is still the best O/S from MS

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Well said, and all accurate - I've been using Windows 8 for 6 months, and yesterday went back to Windows 7 - it's the biggest mistake Microsoft have ever made - 90% of the apps I use, business apps, are Desktop apps - developers of proprietary and specialist software aren't going to re-version their apps for Metro (or whatever we have to call it now). Windows 8 is a waste of space!

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I tried the preview version during the spring and hated it utterly, couldn't wait to go back to Windows 7 which I did after two days and I breathed a huge sigh of relief.

Windows 8 is OK for toy computers (tablets) where you use your fist to play Angry Birds, but for power users Windows 7 will remain the grown up option.

F.Y.I. Microsoft, they are programs, not 'apps'. Apps are what hipsters play with on their ipads outside Starbucks whilst trying to look uber cool. Real people still use programs.

Why is every other version of Windows a stinker?

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Why are so many comments concerned with using keyboard shortcuts? This is a review of a GRAPHICAL user interface; it's not sufficient to point to shortcuts. If you can't discover how to operate your PC by playing around with the mouse, the GUI is not working properly. Nobody should have to do a Web search to learn the basics. As for not including the utilities that come with Windows 8 in a review piece like this, words fail me. Windows 8 is not just Metro or the desktop, it's everything that loads from the DVD in an installation. Take the blinkers off.

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For Windows 8 lovers- i prefer win 7 why?

still iam using win 8 pro 64 bit and dual booting it with windows 7 ultimate 64 bit

Windows 8 looks nice but non responsive tile apps.and u can't calculate windows experience index and keep giving errors not so charming.graphics performance is somewhat a joke.i have to reinstall the metro style apps at any time when they become non-responsive.i couldn't find a real solution for this.anyway may be it's not vista again but i prefer win 7 and it's not so tempting upgrade.As a desktop user new UI is not so great.

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I think you need to give it time. I've spent 2 days on windows 8 and absolutly love it! It's not irratating or frustrating if you have a tutorial.. Its about interaction.. And i used it on a notebook. Fair point it is made for a tablet but it's just as useful on a notebook/desktop. I think you're not being open minded and are just too comfortable with the old Windows styles (XP Vista 7)

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I think you need to give it time. I've spent 2 days on windows 8 and absolutly love it! It's not irratating or frustrating if you have a tutorial.. Its about interaction.. And i used it on a notebook. Fair point it is made for a tablet but it's just as useful on a notebook/desktop. I think you're not being open minded and are just too comfortable with the old Windows styles (XP Vista 7)

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@Palodin

"I've given it a fair chance."

No you haven't. You don't even know how to use the damn thing. You can't even turn the damn thing off, nor do you know how to cycle through apps with the simple Alt-tab. You're an idiot.

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What a terrible article, you obviously have a hatred for Microsoft. I have been using Win 8 for over a month and love it in work and home. It has the right balance of desktop and tablet, it made a 4 year old HP laptop work better and faster than ever... Yes it takes some learning but so do many things... old laggards will moan and not bother to FTFM, the kids will and have picked it up and run with it without thinking... There will be a lot of noise because this is a paradigm shift in PC use ... well done Microsoft for stepping up to the mark

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I shall quietly accept the authors advice despite the no doubt sincere and quite possibly sincere objections made by other commentators here.

For me an operating system should be simple and virtually invisible, I don't like having icons marching all over my desktop and applications should unlike children not be seen until required.

From 95 to 7 Windows has facilitated my demand for a peaceful non involved life and stayed quietly in the background and operated in a manner which I found easy to learn. I see no advantage in switching to an operating system which insists in being, "In my face" and which uses a new and different range of key presses and mouse commands to control it .

As a hardened and cynical pirate this is one I have already had multiple opportunities to add to my collection but frankly consider it to be simply not worth the effort. Putting it bluntly this is one operating system Microsoft would have to pay ME to use.

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