AMD's Ryzen has ushered in a new phase of hardware tribalism

AMD Ryzen fanning the flames of hardware tribalism

It’s a special week for the underdogs of tech. As Nintendo attempts to revive its fortunes with a hardware gamble in the console market, Intel’s long-time rival also sews the potential seeds of recovery. AMD’s fresh batch of CPUs, based on its all-new Zen architecture, make their way to enthusiasts today. But even if Ryzen succeeds in making AMD competitive on paper once more, will it be enough to rescue the company’s lacklustre decade?

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Long gone are the days of AMD’s K8 series of processors which saw the company momentarily leap ahead of Intel in the noughties. Questionable decisions made since have left AMD trailing in Intel’s shadow. The focus on ‘more cores’ rather than tweaking individual core performance and instructions per clock (IPC) has failed to provide gamers with significant va-va-voom. 

Since the Bulldozer architecture for their FX CPUs spectacularly failed to meet expectations back in 2011, incremental hops in speed have been underwhelming. AMD was even left facing a class-action lawsuit over what was seen as a misleading core count on the modular design of Bulldozer CPUs. Not the best start to the new decade.

Fortunately for AMD some of their CPUs have remained a somewhat sensible choice within restricted budgets, but the realm of high-end gaming has become lost territory. The company’s recent pre-launch claims haven’t matched real-world results, and in the case of Bullldozer, performances sometimes lingered in the realm of its predecessor, the K10. Intel’s solutions have been cleverer, their top-end performance unmistakably better. The result: a swathe of customers who won’t consider anything but a GPU of green and a CPU of blue. 

In addition to the usual tribalism amongst hardware aficionados, this group of individuals has had genuine reason to deride AMD in recent times. In the eyes of PC gamers, the company is no longer a feisty competitor, but a necessary evil resulting from empty coffers.

AMD Ryzen launch

Even with the prospect of AMD competing in the high-end market for the first time in years, this long-time status quo has created a noticeable backlash to the Ryzen launch hype. Some of this rebuttal is undoubtedly driven by recent history, the rest, it’s easy to suppose, by a strong identification among gamers with Intel and Nvidia.

Scanning through the internet’s hive mind (an imprecise science, but often illuminating) reveals a tension between those who are excited at the prospect of AMD returning to the fore, and those who don’t seem to care what the facts or figures may say: AMD is off the menu permanently. Even for the former group, some enthusiasts simply see Ryzen as a means to an end: “I'd never buy AMD personally,” reads one response, “although it's always good to see them strong as they drag intel's prices down.” 

Reactions vary from ambivalence to outright scorn, to a very clear doubt that AMD will remain competitive in the long-run: “Next year, Intel will come up with something amazing and not that expensive either and will put AMD back in the grave.” 

Even if Ryzen’s new architecture secures the dramatic real-world number crunching promised by its creators, this mental barrier is likely to remain. 

Intel CPU competition

To some, the prospect of the $500 AMD R7 1800X out-performing the $1000 Core i7 6900K will sound too delicious to ignore, but price is only one of many factors. An AMD CPU requires an AMD motherboard, and some would argue, an AMD GPU as well, though historically the performance of either Nvidia or AMD cards has been hindered when wedded to a non-Intel processor. This kind of wholesale commitment to the three most important organs in a PC setup requires trust, a commodity which seems in short supply with regard to AMD’s product lines. 

One can’t help but feel sorry for Intel’s younger sibling: a company a fraction of the size, with a tenth of the R&D budget, which has attempted to fight against billions of dollars of investment on the part of its rival. The question is, what can AMD do to smoothe over the fault lines which divide those who would, under certain circumstances, purchase their tech, and those who absolutely won’t? 

It’s here that, in the face of Intel and Nvidia, AMD is facing a battle similar to those who stand against Apple in the smartphone or laptop business. The premium bar has been set, and even when individual products stand head to head with the Cupertino giant’s creations, dislodging customers from the ecosystem proves troublesome. 

Full AMD systems are likely to remain rare

Many high-end gamers have now been exclusively buying Intel and Nvidia since the late noughties - which for some is three complete PCs without any AMD tech whatsoever. No wonder the identity politics of PC hardware enthusiasts has become more partisan of late.

The answer for AMD, it seems, is to create a price differential between itself and Intel that is simply too enormous to pass up. PC hardware enthusiasts are, at least in theory, drawn to raw figures and empirical improvements; after all, with a CPUs does anything else really matter? If Ryzen proves that it can deliver a 50% saving to customers on high-end number crunching, this alone may prove enough to damn the potential consequences and dive on in.

Of course, this all depends on the potential response by Intel, which has been covered in detail by our hardware editor. The company is already dropping the prices of its current lines, and rumours of further hardware announcements are circulating. 

It seems unlikely, however, that the current turn of events will immediately overturn the world of high-end PC gaming. AMD is going to have to consistently achieve for a long-while, and through the full stack of chips, in order to reset its rep and bring those intractable members of the opposing camp back onto the fence when choosing a new setup. 

Today, AMD may score a victory in terms of raw numbers, even if the gaming performance of the initial R7 1800X reviews leaves something to be desired. We await the results of more long term independent testing with baited breath. The victory of hearts and minds, however, will be much, much longer fought.

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ThatThereTim avatarIggy avatarSly_Koopa avatarPetosiris avatarMike the Meek avatarBen Barrett avatar+2
ThatThereTim Avatar
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5 Months ago

I read all the reviews, and bought a 7700K instead. I can see Ryzen has a place, but that place is not at the top end of the Glorious PC Gaming Master Race table, and won't be for many years to come.

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Sly_Koopa Avatar
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5 Months ago

A well-informed buy, if I may say so myself. Good for you, sir!

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Iggy Avatar
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5 Months ago

"Glorious PC Gaming Master Race table..."

That has to be the geekiest phrase I've heard yet this year.

Sheldon Cooper, is that you?

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ThatThereTim Avatar
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Petosiris Avatar
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5 Months ago

Good article! I've noticed the same attitude among people on Internet, who won't consider AMD - regardless.

But I tend to disagree with Justin Mahboubian-Jones about this phenomenon is similar to those who won't consider Apple iPhone and notebooks. There are good reasons to why I won't consider Apple's products and they are how Apple handles things like privacy, openness, sencorship, secrecy, and manufactoring. I don't like their policies, it has nothing to do with their products.

AMD is completely different than Apple on such policies. For instance, their openness is well known and they have made several open source initiatives. AMD's drivers are open source, Mantle was open source (now replaced by Vulkan), GPUOpen is open source, and many others. Nvidia is a closed company. They drivers aren't available as open source (so Linux users can't use them), GameWorks is closed (and deliberatly working badly on AMD GPUs), and so on.

These are important issues IMO and influence my purchase choices. It's not the same as Nvidia+Intel tribalism, which categorically dismiss AMD - without other reason than it is AMD.

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Mike the Meek Avatar
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4 Months ago

I've read only two articles on this sight. Both had really obvious bad writing (the first even had bad writing in the headline!).

From article above:

"Since the Bulldozer architecture for their FX CPUs specularly failed to meet expectations back in 2011, incremental hops in speed have been underwhelming."

"Specularly failed"?

How about:

"Since the Bulldozer architecture for their FX CPUs failed spectacularly to meet expectations back in 2011, incremental hops in speed have been underwhelming."

I've got better things to do than read badly written articles. Maybe hire someone who can write or someone who can spot bad writing (or both!). I'll check you guys out again in a year or so.

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Ben Barrett Avatar
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4 Months ago

Fixed the typo, thanks for pointing it out. See you in 12 months!

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I am Karl, King of Ducks Avatar
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Thank you so much, I was irritated by that guys post and your reply just made me chuckle! Well done, nothing like a good sport, such a rarity on the internet these days!

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rid.diego Avatar
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4 Months ago

"I've read only two articles on this sight"

How about:

"I've read only two articles on this site"

It happens to the best of us.

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