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Anita Sarkeesian cancels Utah State University talk after violent threats

Anita Sarkeesian

The crusade against women who have opinions about video games continues unabated, reaching new heights of lunacy. Anita Sarkeesian, who runs Feminist Frequency’s Tropes vs Women in Video Games, was meant to be hosting a talk at the Utah State University, but has had to cancel the event due to violent threats made against her and those attending her talk.

One particular email was sent to USU staff in regards to the talk. “A number of personnel at Utah State University received an email regarding the scheduled presentation by Anita Sarkeesian tomorrow, October 15, 2014, at USU's Taggart Student Center. The email contained threats to Sarkeesian and those who attend her presentation.” 

That threat was, according to Sarkeesian, just one of several threats made against her and other feminists at the university. 

While the university promised “enhanced security measures” like not allowing attendees to bring in big bags or backpacks, incredibly, they were not able to ban guns. Just to clarify: you wouldn’t be allowed to bring a backpack, but you could bring a gun with you. 

Unfortunately, this was out of the university’s hands, as Utah has open carry laws that allow people with permits to carry firearms. Apparently a threat to carry out a “massacre” was not enough to create an exception.

Sarkeesian says that she has not cancelled the event just because of the threats, but because the security measures weren’t good enough. 

This horrible state of affairs hasn’t muted Sarkeesian, though, even if it has lead to the cancellation of the talk. 

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Htorne Avatar
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3 Years ago

Hmm this seem to be a mostly US thing, at-least from my own experience and that of my wife, who has been a gamer for 25 years now.

Has anyone of you guys who are not from the US encountered any hostility towards women who talked about feminist points of view ?

I'm just a little flabbergasted over this entire ordeal.

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Kleppe Avatar
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3 Years ago

No, never, but we don't have extreme cases like this woman in my country either. Maybe genders is a big thing in the US tho compared to most other countries.

Also this:

Just to clarify: you wouldn’t be allowed to bring a backpack, but you could bring a gun with you.

Really, sounds like a great thing, and progress.

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Laris80s Avatar
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3 Years ago

Maybe you just don't know how sexism looks like? Look up #everydaysexism on twitter to learn about examples. By the way, this hashtag is a UK project and definitely not restricted to the US.

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Kleppe Avatar
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3 Years ago

I don't think you quite read the comment i answered.

"Has anyone of you guys who are not from the US encountered any hostility towards women who talked about feminist points of view ?"

I don't say there is no sexism here, I said there is very few, if any that are hostile towards feminists. Norway is however on the forefront of equal rights for men and women, which might also be the reason we don't have any of these nutcases like her, because she is fucking insane.

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Shriven Avatar
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3 Years ago

OMG I was thinking EXACTLY the same thing....."Is all the shit coming from one Country?"

It took 15mins of looking into it to find that out... I reckon everyone knows about that, but cant say for fear of being labelled Racist.

Obviously, I am not condoning the blaming of an entire country of people. But, the US might have a different perspective and acceptance level of these types of issues, causing a few of them to boil over on the topic...

*My views dont necessarily reflect the views of me tbh, I play devils advocate a lot*

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unwanted Avatar
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3 Years ago

That's what they teach people in this country. The woman stays at the house and cleans, cooks, etc while the man goes out to work. The man can do whatever he wants while the woman should be lucky that she found someone to take care of. Men are basically told, from birth, that women are property. Now things are changing and with all positive change, there is push back.

Should point out that I'm a guy and don't care about being called a SJW, feminazi or whatever.

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Tunnel Snake OG Avatar
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3 Years ago

Ok what part of the US do you live in that you were taught that? I live in the midwest, considered to be the more conservative part of the country and not once have I had a single adult figure growing up tell me anything of the sort. In fact, I can't think of a single couple where both the man and woman didn't work, I mean it's not the 50's anymore.

Edit: just to add I actually know more stay at home fathers than stay at home mothers

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unwanted Avatar
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3 Years ago

Maybe "taught" was the wrong word. I guess "implied" would have been better.

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Tunnel Snake OG Avatar
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3 Years ago

I'm sure I'm going to get blown up for saying this but statistically a person with a carry permit is far less dangerous than the rest of society, you're about 3 times more likely to be shot by a cop in fact. If someone is going to commit a shooting they aren't getting a permit and then allow themselves to be searched by police (open carry means they would have to display their firearm anyways). So let's not make this a referendum on carry laws which get less restrictive all the time while violent crime continues its 20 year decline.

While in all likelihood these threats are being made by some pathetic loser with no intent of actually carrying them out it would be nice to see one of them get brought to justice, maybe scare some sense into these people. While I probably disagree with a lot of what she has to say I hope she finds a way to take her life back and keep spreading her message.

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unwanted Avatar
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3 Years ago

I won't touch the first part because I don't want to get into that.

To your second point, I think you're right. This is just somebody looking for attention. I don't think anything was going to happen either.

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Chester Mctubular Avatar
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3 Years ago

Um. How exactly is this related to PC gaming? Also is she completely sure that those threats are not made by twitter trolls? Why is this page covering up the news of youtube celebrities? Are you going to cover Total Biscuit's cancer procedure?

I don't like were this is heading.

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Chester Mctubular Avatar
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3 Years ago

Well I know that another youtuber Boogie2988 was a victim of threats, not him but his was received two death threats from the antagonist of gamer gate.

Is this site going to cover that as well? It only seems fair.

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Burben Avatar
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3 Years ago

The last bastion of un-biased and actually critical games critique, someone who actually stands up for the consumer and blows the whistle on unethical business practices by game publishers (and also arguably the most famous pc games critic) comes close to death and there's not a peep from these pc focused games websites. Then an excuse to label gamers as harassers and mysoginists comes along and they all jump on the bandwagon. Why would anyone report this story? They're giving the nutcase who perpetrated the crime exactly what he wanted: attention. Let her work with the police to protect herself and find him/her, rather than give the guy/gal everything they were hoping for.

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subedii Avatar
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3 Years ago

- It relates to gaming overall, so it's relevant yes.

- The threats were specific and included names and addresses. This is enough for any law enforcement agency to take it seriously. Especially when it's a threat of a school shooting.

- The death threats aren't realistically to do with her being a "youtube celebrity", and are very much to do with what she's been saying about tropes in the gaming scene.

- PCGamesn actually covered a post by TB that was specifically about _newsnight_ and their misunderstanding of the gaming scene. I'm afraid I don't really see how this is less relevant to gaming in general than that one was.

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Fattox Avatar
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3 Years ago

One thing i liked about PCGamesN was that it didn't get involved and jump in feet first with nonsense like "The crusade against women who have opinions about video games continues unabated, reaching new heights of lunacy.".

There has been plenty of threats, dox'ing and people losing their jobs on both sides of this GG issue. But i guess this side brings in the most hits and ad revenue? I don't condone these threats, but making it out like only one side has it's trolls and bad eggs is extremely inaccurate.

This was one of the only places i could come for news purely about gaming, ever since NG started going full SJW-mode on RPS earlier this year. Oh well, it was good while it lasted...

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Tim Edwards Avatar
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3 Years ago

We've tried to avoid making this a gamergate story, generally because I don't agree with the pervading theme that you can blame the actions of individuals on those within a group. I made a specific choice not to talk about it in the text.

However - the continued harassment of women who talk about games /is/ a problem, and it's something we want to talk about.

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elvismiggell Avatar
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3 Years ago

Out of interest I started counting links to stories on this page. I stopped at 115 or so when I got to the end of the comments. After that they just keep on generating.

Not one of them was linked to this issue.

All I see is a website reporting on key developments as and when they happen. Keep it up. :)

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St!gar Avatar
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3 Years ago

"The crusade against women who have opinions about video games continues unabated, reaching new heights of lunacy."

What an extremely erroneous and offensive thing to say.

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elvismiggell Avatar
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3 Years ago

If they'd said "the crusade by gamergate..." then you might have a fair point.

That there are individuals out there that think a reasonable response to someone calling for changes to a hobby / lifestyle you love warrant death threats, no matter how unlikely to be acted upon, is ludicrous.

PCGamesN didn't tar the whole gamergate movement (or indeed their opposition) with a brush here.

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subedii Avatar
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3 Years ago

How is it erroneous or offensive?

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Frankly, I have an extremely hard time characterising death threats and threats to _shoot up a school_ as anything OTHER than the heights of lunacy.

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And those threats have very much come about because of her opinions on video games. Even if you think she's fruit-loops crazy with the most ignorant opinion imaginable, that kind of behaviour is SO far beyond the line that it's hard to even see it anymore.

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Shriven Avatar
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3 Years ago

I just dont get what is going on through this gamergate thing. Surely, were all for equal rights and none stereotyping of genders in games? I thought that was a given...but it seems not.

I still dont understand how Zoe Quinn's fanny started all this shit.

Also: All these MUPPETS abusing people need to be caught..somehow.

Also, also: If they are asking for better ethics in the industry, why arnt they targeting companies like Ubisoft who basically bribed journo's with free Galaxy Nexus last year?

Or, am I just waaaaaaay off?

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MadMonkey119 Avatar
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3 Years ago

Its primarily focusing on the journalists. The journalists should not have accepted Nexus's from Ubisoft just as well as Ubisoft should not have given them. Totalbiscuit mentions this http://www.twitlonger.com/show/ngscie

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Dog Pants Avatar
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3 Years ago

In before the comments get locked...

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The focus seems to be much more on relationships between journos and indy devs, and not nearly enough on the AAA publishers who are instigating thinly veiled or actual bribes. Publishers who do this are absolutely certainly trying to elicit a particular outcome, the journalists are free to choose whether it lets that influence them (apart from when it's contracted, obviously). I don't even know how the weird, paranoid crusade about feminism is meant to be related apart from as a very dubious catalyst (as Shriven so eloquently put it).

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Kinth! Avatar
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3 Years ago

Because the ethics should come from the journalists. I.e they should have turned down those Galaxy Nexus's.

Geoff Keighley shouldn't be sat between a pile of mountain dew and doritos's.

The Shadow of Mordor deals etc.

In the end the publishers are going to do what they can to represent their game in the best possible light.

It's the games critic/reviewer/Journalist's job to tell their audience what the game actually is. Not take bribes and cut deals to make the publishers job easier.

The journalist is meant to have the consumer's (their audience) interest in mind not the publishers. A lot of people go to these sites expecting honest reviews. If all they do is spread the same shit the publisher does then why do we even need them in the first place, they become irrelevant.

As for Zoey Quinn she was more just the spark than the explosion. Unfortunately games media have focused on that aspect to try and make it look like anyone who supports GG is a misogynist when really it has little to do with women in gaming. This has been building for years. The Zoey Quinn/Nathan Grayson thing was just the last straw for many people.The entire thing is only centred around women because games media made it that way. Every time GG tried to move onto the ethics debate games media drags it right back to women. "Look woman who has been harassed is still being harassed! Even though she was being harassed way before this, we are still going to pretend it has everything to do with this, and that you must be the perpetrators!"

They just give the megaphone to the vocal minority to drown out everyone else.

This debate has been going on for years. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-10-24-lost-humanity-18-a-table-of-doritos

See anything misogynistic there? No. This is the sort of thing GG is about.

Rob Florence had to leave Eurogamer because of that article.

Remember Gamespot firing Jeff Gerstmann for giving bad reviews to games advertised on their site. etc etc.

All of this still goes on and very little of it is disclosed.

Anita Sarkeesian has been receiving threats daily since the moment she started tropes vs women. Games media are just labelling all these threats as GG to try and push this image of the entire movement as misogynistic. I support GG and I also think the harassment on either side (yes GG supporters have been harassed and threatened but you wont ever see an article on that) of anyone involved is disgusting.

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Chaz Avatar
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3 Years ago

"The Zoey Quinn/Nathan Grayson thing was just the last straw..." And this is why I could never support GG. It was conceived on bullshit. I get the concept of a last straw, I really do, the trouble is that the Quinn/Grayson relationship shouldn't even be a freaking straw. Grayson hadn't even written anything on her since the relationship began so the idea that it affected any kind of journalistic integrity is ridiculous.

The only productive thing I've seen from this GG shite so far is the TB's whistleblowing of the Shadow of Mordor deal. Trouble is, not only has TB been doing that since what feels like the dawn of time, but even he felt jaded from the group when it hastily dropped pages from GG's own subreddit.

I have good friends who associate with GG. The problem is all they do is just tweet messages about the industry while a minority take those messages, tie them to bricks, and throw them at journalists' windows.

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Chester Mctubular Avatar
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3 Years ago

For what I know it has to do with how gaming sites are corrupt, how some of them give good reviews to friends of them who develop games and at the same time how some of them serve the AAA studios to manipulate the perception of the consumers take the whole 30fps fiasco for example.

For some reason feminist got involved and then the whole movement became fuzzy.

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Tunnel Snake OG Avatar
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3 Years ago

Problem with GG (other than it lacking any concrete evidence of actual wrong doing) is its focused on games journalism. Anything written about it will just be seen as part of the conspiracy by the GG believers.

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KeefBaker Avatar
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3 Years ago

I can't speak for within the industry but as for games themselves I wrote this at the beginning of the year and things haven't changed an awful lot since then..

http://www.keefbaker.co.uk/?p=114

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St!gar Avatar
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3 Years ago

I have no sympathy for that parasite of a woman, whatsoever.

Also; I thought you guys were better than this, PCGamesN.

I've lost a good deal of respect for you, now.

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Minttunator Avatar
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3 Years ago

Yeah, I was really hoping PCGamesN would stay out of the whole poopstorm and just keep writing about PC games - which is what I come here to read about. I stopped reading Rock Paper Shotgun because I'm not looking for articles about gender politics on a video game site (even if I agree with much of what they're saying). I really don't want that to happen here.

PCGamesN has so much potential - can't we just get back to talking about PC games?

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Fraser Brown Avatar
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3 Years ago

We write about PC games every single day. In the hundreds of articles we post every single week, thousands each month, I can maybe think of one that was about gender politics. That's it.

This is not all that different from when we reported the Bomb scare at Gearbox's HQ. Nobody seemed to have a problem with that.

But more important than any of that: we write about a lot of different things relating to gaming. But since the vast majority of our articles are about individual PC games, you can avoid the much smaller number of articles that aren't, and just read what you like.

I'm sure a lot of people don't care about 4X games, either, but I will keep on writing about them too.

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Minttunator Avatar
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3 Years ago

Thanks for taking the time to reply, Fraser - I might not agree with your policy but I do appreciate the clarification!

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Empyre Avatar
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3 Years ago

I like boobs.

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boniek83 Avatar
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3 Years ago

I wouldn't be surprised if she was the one that send this mail just to get free feels and publicity about her and her agenda (clearly this is not about gaming but politics). That or peson sending threats is amazingly stupid because he/she is getting exactly opposite result. If you want Anita to stay irrevelant just ignore her ffs.

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KeefBaker Avatar
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3 Years ago

I hope she doesn't get put off. The game industry needs more people like her.

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BraveToaster Avatar
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3 Years ago

We got plenty of con artists in the industry

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Loki_uk Avatar
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3 Years ago

I'm sorry - since when was GamerGate discussion over "morals and integrity"? All I see is rape and murder threats. If there is someone in there who isn't doing that then it's time for them to bail from that group and they can try to start up a new one themselves. This one is tainted beyond repair.

Who cares if journalist's accept stuff from the AAA studios so long as that doesn't affect their reviews? If they do it in secret - then give a good review on the basis of that then they are rubbish but they will get found out soon enough anyway - it's not exactly a secret due to bloggers mentioning it anyway - but most of this GamerGate stuff appears to be just "She's a woman - she must have slept with him to get a good review" (although it appears that he hadn't given her any reviews since they got together - so is this just all about the *possibility* of a good review?).

My two favourite websites are The Register - where they used to have a bribe chart up with the promise that any bribes given would be accepted but also mentioned in the article. They are currently banned from Apple meetings and expo's since Steve Jobs took exception to some articles they wrote in 2000's where they obviously hadn't drunk the cool-aid. It hasn't stopped them hilariously picking apart the Apple releases (and the Microsoft, or any other company really). Their motto is "Biting the hand that feeds IT" - it's not like they keep it a secret.

The other one is this one - since it's the closest thing I have to the fabulous PC Zone magazine that would also tell you straight if something was rubbish. My subscription got changed over to PC Gamer automatically - but they were all too dull and serious. Don't suppose you guys want to put up a Bribe Chart too?

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BraveToaster Avatar
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3 Years ago

Since when is Islam about peace and self enlightenment? All I see is terrorism, misogyny, and terrorism threats. It's obviously not because all my sources only publish articles about bad news, it's because Islam is inherently bad, right? You never see any gaming journalist talking about the good side of gamersgate is because it's against them, so why would they give it positive attention? Posting an article about how you and your colleagues are paid off and bribed by publishers won't get you lots of readers, but talking about how the vocal minority of an organization (that is against corruption in gaming journalism) is sending out RAPE and MURDER THREATS?! That's far more sensationalist. Also, I'm sure anyone who has played games online in the last 14 years, or been on the internet at all ever would know that any idiot can go and be anonymous, and say anything. So why give these people the attention they so desire? Oh right, because it buys pity and support for their cause

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