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Battlefield Reddit mods: "We're done - no more bitching about historical accuracy"

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The moderators of the Battlefield subreddit have closed all discussion of accuracy in the games' depiction of history, citing exhaustion and evidence of brigading.

Unless you've been living under a rock (and in a place without Wi-Fi), you won't have missed the complaints from certain corners of the gaming community that Battlefield V is historically inaccurate - complaints that substantially focus on the game featuring a female soldier with a prosthetic arm. It seems the sheer volume of discussion this has generated has finally overwhelmed the Battlefield moderators, but much of that volume has come from agenda-driven brigading.

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The post about the new policy is titled "We're done, it's over. New rule: No more bitching about historical accuracy... Violations will have consequences." Here's what moderator u/sloth_on_meth had to say:

"Reddit admins have confirmed brigading and the modteams of the subs in question are fully cooperating to make sure it doesn't happen again. Hate us all you want but we're done with this bullshit.

"This issue has been discussed in a million fucking threads but we've never been brigaded more than we have in the past months. Admins can only keep up with so much. We're done wasting our time on this, every point has been made, no you're not sexists or whatever, but this shit is just repetitive now."

Sloth_on_meth - and I can't mention the username twice without commenting on how brilliant it is - continued in an update: "We get that y'all have valid criticism about Battlefield V and the customisation options within the game. Sadly, this subreddit has proven to be unable to have a civil discussion about these things without devolving into name calling and slapfights." Following accusations to the contrary, they updated again to say - loudly - that: "WE ARE NOT PAID BY, CONTROLLED BY, OR AFFILIATED TO, EA OR DICE." 

The decision has been divisive, to put it mildly. A casual scroll through the thread shows a great many replies protesting about 'censorship', or similar: "telling an entire subreddit with 120k+ users that nobody is permitted to discuss a topic is wrong." The two top-voted replies both ask how the mods will explain their decision to their daughters - a reference to EA exec Patrick Söderlund's robust retort to the community backlash.

Some of the more moderate replies acknowledge the need to curb the recent toxicity but say "this is gonna come off as extremely heavy-handed." Another upvoted reply suggests this is an act of contempt by the mods against those who care about history, and assumes the latter are all "uneducated bigots."

Brigading occurs when a group of users, often outsiders to a targeted community, invade said community to push an agenda there. It's a problem because the brigade is often content simply to manipulate discussion through downvoting, and if they ever actually contribute, will seldom do so in good faith. 

Personal opinion: setting aside gender politics for a second, I like historical accuracy too - though I don't mind if videogames take some liberties especially if, like Battlefield, their principal selling point is entertainment value. Regardless, at least some women definitely fought in World War Two. That's a matter of fact, not opinion. No one is saying they were in the majority, but the fact that their stories were so exceptional, and have been so under-explored, is what makes them interesting.

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llubtoille Avatar
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6 Days ago

Hope they just go whole-hog and have an alien invasion game mode - bit like fallout where it's implied the aliens started the war XD

Mecha-Hitler anyone? (or is that trademarked...)

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1N07 Avatar
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6 Days ago

BFV is clearly historically inaccurate to some degree, but I don't really get why people are all up in arms about it. I mean sure, the woman with the prosthetic limb is a bit on the nose, but I never saw BF as some sort of accurate war simulator. It's more believably over realism sort of game IMO.

There are other games for the more historically accurate take.

Then again I'm not all that interested in BF in general and as such haven't really dug deep in to this whole "controversy". Maybe the complainers do have a point. I'm not sure.

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Zeroderp Avatar
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6 Days ago

Fans believed EA was true when they said BFV was "the most historically accurate battlefield yet." EA released the trailer and the fans called them out on the the inaccuracies. The news media and EA called them manbabies and migonists for doing so. Then the fans retaliated everywhere on how stupid it is. It's a never ending cycle that will result in poor sales for EA and the Battlefield community breaking apart.

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1N07 Avatar
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6 Days ago

Sounds like bad communication on their part.

I've watched little about it, but in one interview I did watch, they specifically said it's NOT supposed to be ultra realistic. That was before the controversy too.

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Mighty Gaz Avatar
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6 Days ago

Good, any community that thinks this sort of shit is acceptable should be broken.

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