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As far as being the best gaming chip, the Ryzen chips are keeping up pretty well at a lower price point, and that's not to mention the platform should last longer than intel's platform, and you're giving up a good amount of multi-threaded performance, for a bit higher fps in some games. Which doesn't make any sense to me.
And this will change soon enough, but for right now you can buy an R5 1600 with a $70 ish motherboard and be pretty set. It also might have been nice to see your Ryzen chip OC'd a bit to near 4ghz as you can get. Should have also tested the R5 1400.
And why not replace Total War Atila with Total Warhammer 1 or 2?Reply

We tested with our test rig's standard cooler to give comparative results, which are more important than a standalone figure that doesn't relate to anything.
And we used Attila as it's an incredibly intensive DX11 benchmark, while the DX12 Warhammer test was incredibly flaky for a long while.
As for the 8-thread Ryzen 5 chips, they perform significantly worse than the Coffee Lake hexcore in both gaming and multi-threaded tests.


Not sure how you can really recommend it over Ryzen, you do get slightly more fps in some games yes, at the cost of not having a 6c/12t chip at the same price point, currently even cheaper because Ryzen can work and even OC on $70 motherboards, meaning you can close that gap a bit, and still maintain the far better multi-threaded performance, and possibly longer lasting platform.
Should have also likely included the R5 1400.
May be a double post.


Especially with your UK options being a 3GB 1060, which is just too limiting for the money IMO, not that we have any real options between $150 and $500 USD right now for GPUs.Reply

I do agree that Ryzen would make for the more future-proof option in the long run with AMD's plans for AM4 support.
However, for just gaming, the four-core/eight-thread 7700 should be plenty for quite a few years, really the graphics card will be a worse bottleneck long before the CPU.
Since the option for a GPU upgrade is there with the Trident, I think this makes it more future-proof compared to other pre-builts with more proprietary parts.


Also given the results here I'd have to give it to the 480, Mostly on the back of Free-sync, but also for DX12/Vulkan in the future, and the fact that you can crossfire if you happen to have some spare cash and get a really good deal on a 480 or even a 470
Driver updates have put it on par in DX11 with the 1060, plus you get a bit of Extra VRAM which is just nice to have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s12S74umruY
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Personally I'd say just don't go AM3+ if you're buying fresh at all. It's a dead-end with new AMD chips coming in a few months.
And you're right about the budget boards; it's why I recommended the H170 as a decent option for those not looking to overclock their processors or needing high-performance memory.



Personally I'd say just don't go AM3+ if you're buying fresh at all. It's a dead-end with new AMD chips coming in a few months.
And you're right about the budget boards; it's why I recommended the H170 as a decent option for those not looking to overclock their processors or needing high-performance memory.


If I remember right she had an undisclosed relationship to a press employee that covered her game, and then the press was discovered to be collaborating together as they tried to destroy the "gamer" identity
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You guys totally neglected 1080p 240hz displays which would technically be the best overall for gaming in terms of competitive gaming.
And you should add the 27" 1440p 144hz IPS korean monitor from Pixio here as potentially the best overall, because it's only $399, it's finally back in stock as well
Pixio P277, a follow up to the P77
https://www.buypixio.com/collections/monitors/products/new-px277