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The Ryzen response: Intel have forgotten how to deal with a genuinely competitive AMDThe Ryzen response: Intel have forgotten how to deal with a genuinely competitive AMD
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"forgotten how to deal with competition".

Nobody has forgotten how Intel bribed Dell and others a decade ago when AMD last had a superior processor. Intel paid Dell and others a billion dollars a year to not use AMD Athlon. Intel strong-armed and threatened to bankrupt them by holding back supply and exclusivity payments if Dell and others used AMD.

That's how Intel deals with competition, but that option is not available this time. This time the world, the Feds, the EU is watching, and Dell and a few others are not the only OEMs now and AMD is not Intel's only rival. The fat pig Intel has many enemies, and rightly so.

Intel is stuck at 14nm and now everyone else is on 14nm too. AMD, QCOM, BRCM, CAVM, IBM, NVDA, MLNX. AMD will take PC and server share. ARMv8, ARMv9 will take low, mid range server share and Power8/9 will conquer the high-end. Both ARM and Power are coming out with processors on 14nm this year.

We are talking about a company that, despite having the best fabs in the world, cannot enter a single new market without selling below cost. They failed at mobile (after kicking Steve Jobs out the door when he asked them to make th processor for original iPhone, which resulted in Samsung and TSMC fabs catching up to Intel as they produced millions of mobile processors), they failed at 64bit, they failed at GPU. They are a memory company masquerading as a processor company. There only game is big cores with the densest, largest, fastest cache; they suck at parallel processing and the times have caught up to them as single-core performance is less relevant and parallel processing and graphics is more relevant.

They cannot innovate; they cannot hire talent because their stock has flat-lined for the last decade and a half. Only 70billion in share buyback has kept it from falling. This is another trick that Intel cannot afford to continue, like bribery before. One year from now (or sooner) AMD and Intel stock will both be in the 20s; one going up and the other going down.Reply
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They failed at 64bit ? Ok, AMD fanboy...

AMD had a superior processor a decade ago ? LMAO, that's an eon in tech terms.

They cannot innovate ? They've been doing it way more than AMD, and are still going to.

"the EU is watching" the EU is dying, and rightly so. Bureaucrats.

If AMD can't constantly innovate, the rest doesn't really matter. The sole purpose of AMD seems to be to give competition to Intel, the real chip makers.

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The Ryzen response: Intel have forgotten how to deal with a genuinely competitive AMDThe Ryzen response: Intel have forgotten how to deal with a genuinely competitive AMD
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The uninformed can wait and see if Ryzen is another Bulldozer; I already know it isn't. Jim Keller, SMT, dedicated FPU, ISA, fast cache, power efficiency. Heck, AMD previous mobile processors were as power-efficient on 28nm as Intel was on 14nm. Jim Keller and AMD developed Ryzen along side ARMv8, but eventually made Ryzen the priority. They learned alot about efficient execution from ARM and applied it to Ryzen (Jim Keller's own words) And even if it only matches Intel, where is Intel on graphics/GPU compared to AMD? Where is Intel on High Bandwidth Memory? Where are they on security? They bought Mcafee for crying out loud, which shows how incompetent they are. AMD built security features into the CPU. I think China and others will like that since Intel let the NSA right in with their not-so-random number generator used for encryption.

The future is as clear as the sky is blue, which is why I've had nearly all my money in AMD stock for a year and half.Reply
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An incompetent company does not stay on top for so many years.

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AMD either made a mistake launching Vega’s Frontier Edition first... or they had no choiceAMD either made a mistake launching Vega’s Frontier Edition first... or they had no choice
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still using Fiji drivers for benches ... all those claiming Vega DOA will have to eat crow

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or maybe RTG should get their shit together and quit blueballing everyone :/

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AMD either made a mistake launching Vega’s Frontier Edition first... or they had no choiceAMD either made a mistake launching Vega’s Frontier Edition first... or they had no choice
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Tile based Rasterization was not used for PCper benches, get a clue people, you are all ignorantly declaring Vega = GTX1070 or 1080, wrong, you would know that RX Vega will crush GTX1080Ti, once you understand what went on here with these benches

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You're right, tile-based rasterisation wasn't functioning in the FE drivers PCPer used, and that's putting a lot of pressure on TBR to actually provide that extra performance.


Fingers crossed the driver team manage to get TBR functioning in the next month so RX Vega can launch with it and nail the >30% performance uplift it needs to perform how you expect.

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AMD either made a mistake launching Vega’s Frontier Edition first... or they had no choiceAMD either made a mistake launching Vega’s Frontier Edition first... or they had no choice
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NEWS FLASH to all those declaring RX Vega DOA 30 days before is is actually released.

This Frontier card is a dual purpose card for developers to switch between developing and testing (gaming).

The gaming drivers are not optimized for Vega, tile based rasterization was not even being used during these benches (that's why it performed like a Fury-X in gaming) and even with all that it already at GTX 1080 levels.

So Author and everyone else claiming Vega to be a dissapointment, you are all WRONG. RX Vega is going to rock.
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