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EA address fan upset over The Sims 4's missing pools and toddlers

The Sims 4: child-heavy, but toddler-free.

Pools and toddlers don’t mix well, but they’ve been inextricably paired by one common factor: they’re both longstanding features that’ll be missing from The Sims 4.

The community has been in slow-burn uproar for the past week - over 16,000 have signed a petition calling for their inclusion. EA have addressed their concerns in a new blog post - but its rationale is unlikely to satisfy many.

“The fact is, we owe you a clearer explanation for why pools and toddlers will not be in The Sims 4 at launch,” blogged executive producer Rachel Franklin.

It’s not water or children the Sims Studio have a problem with, it seems, but workload. The newest Sims iteration represents a “major upgrade” in tech: incorporating a new AI system, animation, audio positioning tools, “locomotion logic” and “routing intelligence”.

“So the bottom line is that when we sat down and looked at everything we wanted to do for this game, all the new tech we wanted to build into it, the fact was that there would be trade-offs, and these would disappoint some of our fans,” said Franklin. “Hard pill to swallow, believe me, but delivering on the vision set out for The Sims 4 required focus.” 

That focus was trained on the “features that make Sims come alive” instead - emotions, interactions, behaviour and customisation - as well as new tools for Build Mode.

Which is all for the good. But every new Sims game has represented a major upgrade to its background simulation and creative tools, and none have shaved quite this close to the bone before.

It might sound silly, that thousands are upset over swimming pools. But they’re an important part of the Sims dream - both as a flexible design tool and an emblem of the game’s picket fence ideals. If the Sims team needed to make a trade-off, it seems they’ve picked the wrong one.

Do you think Franklin’s explanation will appease would-be players?

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MerseyMal avatarShriven avatarTim Edwards avatarozzyboy96 avatarAnakhoresis avatar[PWNY] Fluttersnipe avatar+2
MerseyMal Avatar
3 Years ago

Bet they'll appear in one of the 100+ "expansion packs" for it

Shriven Avatar
3 Years ago

I think Karl Pilkington said it best.


They are testing the water (pun intended) to see if they can make them chargeable DLC and anyone who thinks otherwise isnt cynical enough.

ozzyboy96 Avatar
3 Years ago

"the fact was that there would be trade-offs, and these would disappoint some of our fans".

But for a fact there will be a hundred completely useless items and features that could have easily been removed to allow for them.

And it's fairly obvious that a year from now, the "Summer Pack DLC" will be released which brings swimming pools and other features they're taking out of the Vanilla version.

Tim Edwards Avatar
3 Years ago

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Anakhoresis Avatar
3 Years ago

The Sims series drives me nuts. I like to play it occasionally, but having dipped in since the very first one, it's pretty obvious with how on each new generation, they strip out most of the features and start over. I know they have tonnes and tonnes of expansions, but I feel like the next version of a game should incorporate all that the last game+expansions had. Rebuying features is never fun.

[PWNY] Fluttersnipe Avatar
3 Years ago

Without a doubt, we'll get a pool party DC, guaranteed. It bothers me that I have to buy these games since it's just a damn dollhouse simulator. But I'm not going to deny my wife something that she easily racks up hundred and hundreds of hours playing.

RavenHawk Avatar
3 Years ago

And yet they never consider perhaps delaying the release to make sure features are included and fully functional.

I know it's not as simple as them saying 'ok, we're delaying this until it's ready' but you'd think EA would look at some of their more recent (and disastrous) releases and maybe consider the option.

ConcreteShelter Avatar
3 Years ago

"Do you think Franklin’s explanation will appease would-be players?"

What explanation? I can't see any explanation.