The Ryzen 5 1500X is the scaled down mid-range partner to AMD’s finest gaming chip ever, the R5 1600X. It’s retailing for $160 (£137) which puts the first Raven Ridge APU, the Ryzen 5 2400G, firmly in its way.
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It’s almost an unfair comparison because we’re talking about pitching the quad-core, eight-thread 1500X against a similarly specced chip which actually has some genuine graphical power. And given they’re so similarly priced it’s tough to recommend the straight non-GPU laden Ryzen.
So, if it can’t offer the graphics power of the 2400G, what does it have to offer?
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AMD Ryzen 5 1500X specs
The R5 1500X is the top-end quad-core Ryzen CPU, but because of the addition of simultaneous multi-threading (SMT) in the mix the chip comes with a full eight threads of processing potential. That’s the same essential make-up of the Core i7 7700K from Intel, though without the gaming grunt of their flagship Kaby Lake processor.
In a financially-smart move AMD are using the same base processor design to create all the Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7 chips. They’ve created a single eight-core, sixteen thread design – the top-end Ryzen 7 1800X – and for the lower-spec parts are simple disabling cores and/or clocking them slower. Under the heatspreader then this quad-core 1500X is actually just a hobbled octa-core CPU.
That makes things easier, and cheaper, from an R&D perspective as well as from a manufacturing one. The 14nm production process is still relatively new, especially for AMD CPUs, and so this method allows them to still use any silicon that comes off the production line which cannot manage to get all its cores and threads running at the speeds needed for the top chips. These less-capable processors can then be repurposed and shipped as slower Ryzen 7 chips or cut down Ryzen 5 CPUs.
For the uninitiated, the Zen processor design is built from quad-core blocks of silicon called core complexes (CCX). For the Ryzen chips they incorporate a pair of these CCX to make up the full eight-core base design, which then communicate with one another across a proprietary interconnect AMD calls Infinity Fabric.
Like with the cut-down hexcore design AMD are making sure to keep things symmetrical when they make their incisions into the silicon. They’re arranging the quad-core variants in such a way as to enable half the four core CCX on either side of the connecting Infinity Fabric in a two-plus-two layout.
This is to ensure Windows scheduler doesn’t get too out of whack when trying to portion workloads for the different threads and should ensure they’re not oddly metered out across the Infinity Fabric interconnect if they can be kept to a single physical core.
The 1500X is also the first 65W ‘X’ series chip. That means as well as having a lower TDP it also doesn’t struggle under the weird 20॰C offset that the 95W ‘X’ chips sport.
If you want a more detailed run-down of the Zen architecture we’ve gone into greater depth in our main AMD Zen feature.
Even if we’re looking at the R5 1500X purely in the context of how it performs up against the Core i3 7350K it ends up looking a little muddled, more so if you bring the Ryzen 5 1600X or straight 1600 into the equation. The hexcore chips are so good at what they do because of the combination of relatively high clockspeed and hefty multi-threaded grunt, all offsetting their less-powerful straight line gaming performance.
The slower-paced quad-core, eight-thread chip on the other hand doesn’t have that much extra in the tank. That means it drops well behind the higher spec Ryzen 5 CPUs in all tests, and sometimes even behind the dual-core Intel processor when it comes to gaming. And, considering how close it is in terms of pricing, the six-core, 1600 is a far more tempting alternative. For the sake of $30 I think you’d be a fool to opt for the quad instead.
That’s true whether you’re looking at the gaming frame rates or the straight CPU performance in the rendering or encoding tests. The extra threads of the 1500X over the 7350K means it’s got the win over the dual-core chip, but compared with the hexcore 1600X (and, by extension, the R5 1600 too) it’s a long way off.
It’s actually only got a relatively small multi-threaded lead over the resolutely quad-core i5 6600K too. That may be primarily down to the fact the 6600K is clocked so high to begin with, but the 1500X couldn’t even break the 4GHz barrier when overclocked, so that delta is even more crushed when you push the 6600K up to full speed at 4.6GHz.
What the 1500X can offer though is impressively low temperatures, however, it’s not like the Ryzen 5 1600X is particularly toasty once you discount the odd 20॰C temperature offset they’ve stuck on the 95W chips.
After the highs of the Ryzen 5 1600X its quad-core sibling always felt like a bit of a disappointment. It was priced far too close to the hexcore chips and now it has to contend with the mighty Ryzen 5 2400G popping up with the same level of CPU performance but with an AMD Vega GPU in tow.
It’s marginally cooler than the 1600X under load, but not by enough to make any genuine difference if you’re running a decent air or closed-loop liquid cooler. And it certainly doesn’t allow the 1500X to overclock any better, in fact we couldn’t even get it up to 4GHz.
At this price I’m really struggling to find a reason to recommend the Ryzen 5 1500X so, well, I’m not going to. Pick a whole gaming-PC-on-a-chip with the 2400G or, if you’re already rocking a graphics card, make the step up to a hexcore chip. They’re not much more now that the AMD Ryzen 2 CPUs are coming soon.