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DICE: "we lost player trust" because of Battlefield 4 launch

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It is a matter of public record that Battlefield 4 had a shonky launch, with players, developers and publishers now all in agreement that the DICE shooter touched down with all the grace and elegance of a swan landing on a motorway because it's stupid swan-brain thinks roads look like rivers. Get it together, swans.

But while swans refuse to change their ways or admit to their mistakes, an introspective DICE are admitting that the woeful launch and subsequent issues that have plagued Battlefield 4 have harmed player trust in the series.

Speaking to GameSpot, DICE producer David Sirland vowed to earn back the trust that they "absolutely damaged" with Battlefield 4, admitting that a lot of players now "won't trust us to deliver a stable launch game or a stable game".

The solution, he says, is to allow players earlier access to the development process, as they're doing with the Battlefield Hardline beta. EA delayed Hardline's launch date from October 2014 to early 2015 following poor feedback.

"I think we have to do things to get them to trust us," Sirland continued, "not say things to get them to trust us. Show by doing."

As pointed out by CVG, Sirland's candid contrition isn't mirrored by statements made by EA's CFO Blake Jorgensen back in March, who insisted that the "brand" hadn't been damaged at all. "Clearly we're very focused on protected that brand".

Until we are granted full and unfettered access to the Battlefield brand to inspect it for damage or other such wear and tear, it's impossible to say who is correct.

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Shadowized Avatar
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3 Years ago

EA as a whole has lost my trust long before Battlefield 4, I think my biggest gripe is the fact that every Battlefield release is pretty much the same thing, even bugs - the rubber-banding bugs, the glitches where you can walk under buildings and shoot people, player models with stretched necks, other stupid things that were fixed/patched in previous releases just keep showing up with each new release. from a developer standpoint it seems as if they don't commit the fixes back into the main engine so those same bugs keep reappearing.

furthermore the maps keep getting smaller and smaller. I remember in Battlefield 1942 had 64 player maps, maps that were quite large, after the success of Battlefield's mod community (Desert Combat / Forgotten Hope), DICE released BF2, after that everything went downhill especially once they introduced the whole "Ranked server" mechanism which effectively strangled the community into shelling out absurd amounts of money to their "official" providers even when you had your own hardware to host on.

then of course the DLCs, adding 1-3 maps and a few more gun variations, and of course half of those maps being remakes of maps we've already seen (iirc Wake Island has been released 5 times or so now across all the battlefield games).

the "core" gameplay has gone nowhere, there have been no improvements to it, they focus too much on graphics and DLC and honestly I know I won't buy any games released by EA regardless of how "highly rated" they are, same with Activison/Ubisoft.

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BraveToaster Avatar
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3 Years ago

They lost it after BF3 came out, buggy as all hell. Wasn't as bad as BF4, but it sure was a good warning. Also this

http://i.imgur.com/czDwt4h.jpg

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Dog Pants Avatar
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3 Years ago

Same here. I didn't dislike BF3, and I didn't really encounter that many bugs, but it was the premium membership and DLC after DLC which divided the community that put me off. I didn't even bother with BF4, and I'm not expecting to be buying any further games in the series. It's just not a business model that works for me.

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Shriven Avatar
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3 Years ago

Does no one else see Matt Le Blanc in that pic? I must be going mad...

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Fraser Brown Avatar
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3 Years ago

Don't you remember the one where Joey and Chandler went off to war?

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Dog Pants Avatar
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3 Years ago

Yeah, I see it,

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Selarek Avatar
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3 Years ago

They lost my trust, thats for sure.

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Clutchy Avatar
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3 Years ago

I was a longstanding fan of the series and mod community dating back to 42. BF3 was bad but I had hopes for BF4 so I (ack) pre-ordered. And I (stupidly) paid $80 for a digital version of BF4. A very broken digital version.

Never again will I donate money to the EA beast.

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3 Years ago

I'm not interested in earlier previews, alphas or betas. I just want a good, stable, bug-free game on launch day. I also want them to anticipate server loads better during the first few weeks.

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Jutaxer Avatar
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3 Years ago

i live in china, have DICE servers in Hong Kong?

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Neurosploit Avatar
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3 Years ago

I looked forward to BF4 but the launch was awful and they took out my favorite gun the g3a3 and changed the gunplay too much imo. Thus I still prefer BF3 in most cases. That trigger action is hard to beat. Skipping hardline anyways because the crappy punkbuster decides to kill the B service 5-15 minutes into the game every time and reinstall doesn't help at all. I'm a dev so I know my system pretty well but all cleanup/fixes have told me that this is a case I will not win without pb fixing their service which I don't see happening.

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