Sad news, everyone... Nvidia’s next-gen graphics cards aren’t launching at GDC or GTC | PCGamesN

Sad news, everyone... Nvidia’s next-gen graphics cards aren’t launching at GDC or GTC

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Update March 2, 2018:  Tom's Hardware has also done some digging into the chances of Nvidia launching new graphics cards at either the Game Developer Conference or GPU Technology Conference in March, and have come to the same conclusion as us - it ain't happening.

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Tom's have spoken to their own sources, we've spoken to Nvidia a number of times, and they've all been very definite. There are no new gaming GPUs being launched in March, sorry if you've been hoping otherwise, but that's just wishful thinking.

Nvidia haven't been vague about it, haven't skirted around the issue, they've told us directly that there won't be any gaming products launched this month. Damn.

Original article, February 16, 2018:  I know we’re all desperate for Jen-Hsun to say something  about new gaming cards, seeing as the best graphics cards are now crazy expensive. But whether they be codenamed as Nvidia VoltaAmpere, Turing, or Trump architectures, it appears we’re not getting new consumer GPUs launching at either GDC or Nvidia’s own GTC in March.

We’ve spoken with the graphics giant and it seems there won’t be a new graphics card launched at the Game Developers Conference next month, and that Nvidia’s GPU Technology Conference will just offer more about deep-learning, artificial intelligence, and self-driving brum brum cars.

Last year Nvidia launched the GTX 1080 Ti at GDC, and have previously unveiled new graphics card generations around the event, so we were holding out hope that the long-awaited next-gen gaming cards might make an appearance. With their own GTC show starting the following week the timing looked like an ideal opportunity to start talking about the new cards.

That doesn’t mean we definitely won’t hear anything coming out of GTC about consumer variants of Volta, or subsequent Ampere or Turing architectural generations, but if we do it’ll be in terms of some future launch or updates to the GPU roadmap which has hit a dead-end at Volta.

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Fingers-crossed we get new gaming graphics cards before the Big F*&mat Gaming Displays get launched in the summer, because those behemoth monitrons are going to need some serious GPU backing to be able to consistently offer G-Sync happy gaming frame rates at the very highest settings. Even our Pascal-based GTX Titan X isn’t capable of running Kingdom Come: Deliverance at 4K on those terms, so we need some new graphics silicon.

Computex, then? Maybe. Sooner, please.

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SinPunisher avatarblf2018 avatarDigital Assassin avatarAnakhoresis avatarSeczu al-Cheez avatarDave James avatar+14
blf2018 Avatar
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4 Months ago

The price performance of current shortage of GPUs in the market may have made them stick with what they have and not innovate!!!!

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Mars Exulte Avatar
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4 Months ago

You realise Nvidia are not getting any of that money, right? It isn't NVIDIA selling them, it isn't even Asus or other 3rd party devs getting the money. It's scalpers who bought up the GPU inventory, so they can turn around an resale them for two or three times what they spent.

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Dave James Avatar
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4 Months ago

This. 100%, depressingly, this.

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LithiumFireFly Avatar
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4 Months ago

They sell out of almost every GPU everyday on www.nvidia.com/en-us/shop where do you think that money goes? Not to mention they raised prices on their own shop for a shot while a few weeks ago.

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irepairguys Avatar
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3 Months ago

the price raises on the cards are due to shortages of ddr5 and the cost of ddr5 manufacturing has rizen from Micron, Hynix, Samsung Etc. Those prices in RAM and VRAM has gone up.

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Seczu al-Cheez Avatar
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4 Months ago

Why would they release a new card? What they have sells instantly and there's zero competition from AMD, which probably no longer sells Vega and went fully into FE until Navi, cause miners, obviously.

It's same as with Intel and AMD - it took Ryzen to force an early transition from 4 to 6 cores. Coffee Lake might have been delayed a year if not for Ryzen, and you'd be still buying 7700Ks today.

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snowfreeze Avatar
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4 Months ago

Yes-Buy Amd. If for no other reason-to keep Intel in check. Innovating and lowering prices competitively.

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Mars Exulte Avatar
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4 Months ago

You realise Nvidia are not getting any of that money, right? It isn't NVIDIA selling them, it isn't even Asus or other 3rd party devs getting the money. It's scalpers who bought up the GPU inventory, so they can turn around an resale them for two or three times what they spent.

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LithiumFireFly Avatar
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4 Months ago

People are buying Nvidia GPUs NEW that's money in Nvidia's pocket, they don't give them away for free. They profit on every chip sold

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TheTrainStation Avatar
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3 Months ago

Just wait till E3. They will do it right on stage.

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Dave James Avatar
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3 Months ago

That's a good shout. I know they've been thinking about doing a proper PC gaming E3 show, and that would be a hell of a way to kick their first one off.

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SinPunisher Avatar
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4 Months ago

I swear if they're holding out because of miners I'm gonna lose it

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Anakhoresis Avatar
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4 Months ago

it's doubtful they're holding out because of miners. More likely it's because of RAM shortages, meaning that it's probably more profitable for them to be making hardware for their professional grade lines instead of consumers. Add to that that people overhyped Vega meaning that the general populace still overvalues Nvidia, so they have no real reason to release a new generation because they hold the crown.

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[SR] Rage Avatar
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4 Months ago

As a miner, I'll lose is also. I need at least 12 more GPU's and I'm holding out for next gen.

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J0SH Avatar
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4 Months ago

You do not need 12 GPU's. That's the reason Gamers can't get a hold of gaming gpu's anymore, because miners grab them all. You only need about 4 or 5, not 12.

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PICKLE250 Avatar
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3 Months ago

i am a gamer and a miner. dont tell ppl what they do or dont need. going by your logic, u dont need any gpu's, gaming is a waste of time. go outside and play. my gpu's are making me a small fortune, now i can buy more gpu's. i have 18 1070ti's hashing away as we speak. i paid $480 each for the 1st 12, then 650 each for the last 6. i have 12 2080 amperes on preorder. money talks. ur mad because you either cant afford to start mining, or u aren't smart enough to even know how to get started. be mad at nvidia/amd or ram producers for not producing more product.

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Dave James replied to PICKLE250
3 Months ago

I've got 16 Navi 128 GPUs on pre-order, but you don't hear me bragging about it...

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SpenReyn Avatar
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4 Months ago

I think the rumored Turing cards are for AI and we'll get more info at GTC. I doubt we'll see anything new this year for consumer GPUs unless AMD is able to rush something out, or finds a new source for HBM2 since IBM and NVidia bought it all to keep AMD from making GPUs.

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Dave James Avatar
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4 Months ago

The Turing GPU rumours have all come from a single unsourced comment in one line of a Reuters article, specifically calling it a 'GPU gaming chip.' It all seems a bit of a stretch right now.

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SpenReyn Avatar
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4 Months ago

I think the rumored Turing cards are for AI and we'll get more info at GTC. I doubt we'll see anything new this year for consumer GPUs unless AMD is able to rush something out, or finds a new source for HBM2 since IBM and NVidia bought it all to keep AMD from making GPUs.

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RiderKing Avatar
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4 Months ago

Yeah, that's how it usually works, you call them and just ask them. Like they're gonna tell you if they gonna announce something or not.

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Dave James Avatar
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4 Months ago

If you need to arrange transportation to a GPU launch event, as we did last year for the 1080 Ti GDC launch, then that kinda is how it works. They're not going to tell us when the next-gen will launch, but did say there won't be new cards at this GDC.

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RiderKing Avatar
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4 Months ago

That doesn't mean that they're wont announce next gen in late march and hold a launch event in april. As i remember, original source from 3dcenter never mentioned launch in late march.

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Dave James Avatar
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4 Months ago

You're right, it doesn't. They could announce new consumer cards at GTC for a launch in April, but Nvidia have said they're focusing on AI and automotive at the show, so is looking unlikely.

Also the 3DCenter 'source' was just speculation from their forum members, which was then represented by the wider media as something more.

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RiderKing replied to Dave James
4 Months ago

I agree about the rumors from 3DCenter, it's just speculation. One of the sources for all the Ampere stuff along with Heise article is Igor Wallossek. He is some tech journalist who said that he has insider info about Nvidia's internal roadmap with name Ampere being on it set for Q2 2018. It would be great if someone could acutally get in contact with him and try to find out if he's lying or maybe he has some evidence for that after all.

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snowfreeze Avatar
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4 Months ago

Uh... Yeah-why make new graphics cards when you have 1 competitor and neither of you can keep anything in stock. Makes 0 sense at all. Guess I shouldn't have let me option to buy a 1080ti for $800 slip a few days ago. Oh well. At least I can say this-AMD is soon releasing APUs that are fast processors and have Vega graphics as well. They are apparently so good that you don't even require a GPU. That'll make it much easier for gamers to get the hardware they need while the miners continue to buy the old...

Now when Samsung and others finally join the mainstream fray and produce mining hardware-there will be added competition. GPU prices should return to normal and competition will required AMD and NVidia to produce the next gen GPUs that have been rumored. NVidia's option may be Turing for miners-standard for gamers (with mining blocked to ensure only gamers get them). Everyone is pissed about everything and I assure you the CEOs of AMD and NVidia are well aware of it. HOWEVER, why would they care at this point. They dont because everything they make is getting bought. As seen above- Samsung will mix that up HEAVILY and (hopefully) soon.

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Dave James Avatar
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4 Months ago

AMD's APUs are good, but they're still a long way from putting something like 1060 or 570 level graphics out of business.

As for the Turing debate, those rumours are purely based on a single line in a story on Nvidia financials, specifically calling it a gaming GPU. Truck loads of salt for all this specific Nvidia architecture for mining stuff. And there's almost literally no way they can create a graphics architecture that blocks mining. The partners can differentiate with different SKUs for mining and gaming (different coolers, outputs, and power connections) but Nvidia aren't going to go to the effort of creating an entire separate architecture for them.

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FFSChannel Avatar
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4 Months ago

I thinks Nvidia lies (Wish), because If you are Nvidia you would not tell the truth. it is the secret of the Company

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Dave James Avatar
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4 Months ago

The actual logistics of getting out to a launch event at GDC means that we would have to be told about it before it happens, as we were for the GTX 1080 Ti launch last year. They genuinely have no reason to lie to us.

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Dercommissar Avatar
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3 Months ago

Nvidia is serious about "Gamer's First". I personally think they either trashed or delayed their upcoming GPU offerings because of the impact mining has had. I personally think Nvidia has to do something radical like downgrading CUDA while upgrading graphics performance on their new cards. This will effectively segment the miners from the gamers. CUDA is very nice to have but not necessary for gaming. But it's a very fine line because their competition may just decide to accelerate their production line and offer what Nvidia refuses to provide. The 1080 ti as we know it, could be the last of its kind.

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AchievementHunter Avatar
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2 Weeks ago

Thank you nvidia. Actually there isn't games to make the GTX 1080 Ti shake (even in 4k), why would you release a 11 series. AMD is still out of the market and new console generation wont be released until 2021 or something like that. GTX 1180 has no sense now a days. (I actually got a GTX 1080 and is a monster).

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Digital Assassin Avatar
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4 Months ago

Nvidia doesn't need to release any new cards yet, AMD still has yet to release a card that rivals Nvidia's top of the line. The 10 series is still top notch and until games demand more power, Nvidia will most likely just HODL till they have to beat AMD again.... They don't want to release more powerful cards just yet, not while they can gouge us for 200% prices on GPUs.... just my $0.02

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Dave James Avatar
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4 Months ago

It's not Nvidia bumping up the prices of their graphics cards, it's the folk speculating on the increasing prices of GPUs and the retailers/distributors trying to deal with the low volume and trying to retain their revenue stream.

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Dercommissar Avatar
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3 Months ago

Nvidia.com is one of the few, maybe only, provider that sell's the 1080 ti for $699--still. You just have to get it while it's in stock.

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