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Pillars of Eternity 2 is definitely happening and could be crowdfunded

Pillars of Eternity

Obsidian are a bunch of very busy people at the moment, currently working away at the rather interesting Tyranny. But there’s more to the studio than one game, and their CEO has spoken once more about Pillars of Eternity 2, as well as hinting something else new and fresh is being worked on…

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In an interview with gamepressure.com, Obsidian CEO Feargus Urquhart said “Obviously, as you’ve probably guessed, we’re starting to move forward on [Pillars of] Eternity II. That is probably something that we want to look at [in terms of crowdfunding]. I think people felt like we delivered on our promise, and then that felt like we could go with Eternity II and people would support us again, because they trust us.

“Eternity II is not announced, [but] it seems silly for me not to acknowledge it, though. If someone asks “Are you working on it?”, I respond “Well, wouldn’t you work on it?”. So then they say “So you must be working on it”, and then I’m like “Well, yeah”.”

That a sequel would eventually come to pass is not brand new information, with Obsidian’s own Josh Sawyer confirming to us that Pillars of Eternity 2 wouldn’t take place in Dyrwood, but instead a very different, less traditional fantasy setting, But it’s always good to have continued affirmation that the team are working on it.

It does, however, look like we’ll be seeing another Kickstarter/crowdfund system put in place to fund the development. With Pillars being such a success story you’d think the profits would fund a sequel, but perhaps that cash went towards Tyranny. And it would certainly be easier to coax money out of people who are confident in a product’s proven quality. 

A side note from the interview is Urquhart telling gamepressure that “there’s a small group of people within the studio that’s working on something completely new”. Looks like there could well be another IP being created in the depths of Obsidian, which gamepressure claims could see involvement from Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky (of Fallout and Vampire: The Masquerade). How exciting! 

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monkeyfritz Avatar
1 Year ago

Crowdfund once, because you needed funding to make a game no publisher would back? Absolutely. But if you can't fund a sequel from a few million sales of a game you didn't even have to finance, with no publisher or investors to pay back, there is something ethically wrong about that.

But hey, if you got free investment the first time, why not do it again?

It's even worse when you realise this behavior is actively taking funding away from other potential projects that need it. Then it's only big names getting funding and we are back to exactly the same place we were before crowdfunding became an option.

Lolssi Avatar
1 Year ago

People that back are getting "free" game so I don't see what is wrong with that?

Also it ain't taking money away from other projects at least on my case. I ain't gonna back this just because I thought Pillars was bit boring and haven't even finished it yet.

AnAuldWolf Avatar
1 Year ago

This is something that I might very well be into. Though, I swear, if they have a stretch goal to have something written by Chris Avellone? I'll drop it like a particularly filthy rag. Lonesome Road proved what I'd always felt -- that whilst Chris has a cult of personality, he's kind of a hack. He wanted to pull an ego card with Vegas and decided that if he couldn't write the future of the wasteland, it'd need to be nuked back into nothing.

Even RPGCodex almost disowned him for that one.

And honestly? Obsidian is better off without his cult of personality. It allows other writers to shine. I don't like this One Name, One Face, One Voice thing that seems to work so well for capitalism, extraverts, and all the other things that would taste like arsenic were I to put them in my mouth. There are a lot of creative individuals out there, and they shouldn't be disavowed as individuals with their own identity and worth to contribute just because one group of people has a fetish for one name. I really hate that, I'm sorry.

As I understand it, a whole bunch of writers left Obsidian over that, including Travis Stout whose writing I adored (he wrote Lily and Raul in New Vegas). And Josh Sawyer -- again, from what I have heard -- has butted heads with Chris Avellone over this nonsense, too.

I don't want to see a Name attached to this game. I want to see NAMES. Plural! I want them to celebrate all the writers working on it, not just The One Face for the extraverts in the crowd. All of those people have talent. All of them, they all deserve their time in the sun, their recognition, and a chance to earn their own groups of fans without needing to become cults.

I remember the Fallout Bible, which Bethesda finally had to declare as non-canon, because of what it implied. Basically, it was a book of Avellone pissing over the wishes, desires, and aspirations of the other writers who worked on the Fallout Universe to claim it as his own, despite him not having come into it until the second game. I remember that a bunch of writers openly opposed what he'd written there, and said that that's not what they intended at all.

I remember Deiley, talking about the deathclaws, said that Goris had survived in his version. And he also said that the only reason the much nicer ending for the intelligent deathclaws in Fallout 2 had been scrapped is because Avellone rubbed his big, fat ego over the game questionably and declared that having a happy ending for Goris and company was 'against his vision' for the game.

I'm sorry, I really don't like him. I've been an Obsidian fan forever now, and a Black Isle fan before that. I just don't want them paying him or his cult of personality any mouth service any more. It undersells them, it makes it look like they can't succeed without him. And that's horse manure. There are loads of brilliant writers still at Obsidian, and each of those could likely write rings around Avellone.

So no Avellone stretch goal. Please. Okay?

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Dismissing one of the most influential video game writers of all time as a "kind of a hack" is pretty ignorant.

Glen_Runciter Avatar
1 Year ago

Aaaand people are gonna pay for it.

People are buying Elite DLC-s for the price of a full game.

People are giving millions of dollars to Star Citizen.

People are practically fellating Colossal Order because they can freely make content for a game they've bought.

People are paying 50-60 euros for games that are almost unplayable for at least a month.

I feel like I should really turn back to pirating things, something I haven't done since I live alone, and have a job.